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	<title>Discuss Theology &#187; Trinitarian Theology, Trinity, Theology of the Trinity</title>
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		<title>Michelle Obama, Bachelor&#8217;s Thesis and Theology</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2008/02/25/michelle-obama-bachelors-thesis-and-theology/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Barack Obama&#8217;s deportment.  I think many [certainly not all]  of the things he states are informed by his faith.  I also think that my early statements about the nature of his theology are probably correct in that they are are informed by James Cone and his understanding of &#8220;Black Theology&#8221;. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Barack Obama&#8217;s deportment.  I think many [certainly not all]  of the things he states are informed by his faith.  I also think that my early statements about the nature of his theology are probably correct in that they are are informed by James Cone and his understanding of &#8220;Black Theology&#8221;.  Parallel to that is Michelle Obama&#8217;s undergraduate thesis stating that she is basically still in exile and misunderstood by her liberal white profs. there at Princeton. [Find that thesis on Drudge] As much as I like Barack Obama, this recurrent undercurrent of racism concerns me. </p>
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		<title>Justification, Piper and Wright</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2008/02/14/justification-piper-and-wright/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Piper on NT Wright and justification.  This is worthwhilehttp://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/825/
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Piper on NT Wright and justification.  This is worthwhile<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/825/">http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/825/</a></p>
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		<title>Deconstruction, we are kidding ourselves</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2008/02/14/deconstruction-we-are-kidding-ourselves/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just looking at a post on the Christianity Today web site asking myself, how many truly sincere believers even know what &#8220;deconstruction&#8221; is.  The real danger we face is ending up in a corner talking to ourselves without anyone understanding what we are saying.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking at a post on the Christianity Today web site asking myself, how many truly sincere believers even know what &#8220;deconstruction&#8221; is.  The real danger we face is ending up in a corner talking to ourselves without anyone understanding what we are saying.</p>
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		<title>Merry Christmas, In Praise of Joseph</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My pastor spoke about the faithfulness of Joseph in the Christmas story on Sunday and edified me greatly.Â  He emphasized that Joseph really says nothing in the Christmas story mentioned about him in Mt. 1:18-25.Â  He is simply there and faithful.Â  Our pastor continued thatÂ  this kind of faithfulness is something the church needs more [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pastor spoke about the faithfulness of Joseph in the Christmas story on Sunday and edified me greatly.Â  He emphasized that Joseph really says nothing in the Christmas story mentioned about him in Mt. 1:18-25.Â  He is simply there and faithful.Â  Our pastor continued thatÂ  this kind of faithfulness is something the church needs more of.</p>
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		<title>Articles on Justification</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Christianity Today points us toward the upcoming Evangelical Theological Society meeting in San Diego a few day from now, they also pointed us to some other articles on justification and the New Perspectives on Paul.
Related Elsewhere:
&#8220;Further Reading on the New Perspective&#8221; accompanies this article.
A recent Christianity Today editorial outlined why justification by faith alone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Christianity Today points us toward the upcoming Evangelical Theological Society meeting in San Diego a few day from now, they also pointed us to some other articles on justification and the New Perspectives on Paul.</p>
<p><span class="subhead">Related Elsewhere:</span></p>
<p class="text">&#8220;<a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/august/14.27.html">Further Reading on the New Perspective</a>&#8221; accompanies this article.</p>
<p class="text">A recent <em>Christianity Today </em><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/july/19.20.html">editorial</a> outlined why justification by faith alone is still Protestants&#8217; defining doctrine.</p>
<p class="text"><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.thepaulpage.com/">The Paul Page</a> has original articles and interviews about the new perspective on Paul, as well as links to journal articles, books, and other materials around the web.</p>
<p class="text">Scot McKnight has also blogged about the new perspective in <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?cat=40">Jesus Creed</a>.</p>
<p class="text"><em>The Wall Street Journal</em> published <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110007657">John Wilson&#8217;s op-ed</a> on N.T. Wright and the new perspective.</p>
<p class="text">Many of <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://ntwrightpage.com/">N. T. Wright</a>&#8217;s papers and sermons on Paul are available on an unofficial site.</p>
<p class="text">Simon Gathercole&#8217;s &#8220;<a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/divinity/staff/documents/GathercoleTynB52.pdf">After the New Perspective: Works, Justification and Boasting in Early Judaism and Romans 1-5</a>&#8221; is available online.</p>
<p class="text">Other <em>Christianity Today</em> articles on <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/features/index/faithandthought/theology/">theology</a> and justification include:</p>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/23.0.html">Declaration: Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/may/9.29.html">Nothing But the Blood</a> | More and more evangelicals believe Christ&#8217;s atoning death is merely a grotesque creation of the medieval imagination. Really? (May 1, 2006)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/2005/december/23.71.html">Sticking Points</a> | Despite recent rapprochement, evangelicals and Catholics remain far apart on key issues. (December 2005)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/june14/54.0.html">The Gospel of Jesus Christ</a> | An introduction to &#8220;The Gospel of Jesus Christ: An Evangelical Celebration.&#8221;(David Neff, February 1, 2000)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/aprilweb-only/4-14-42.0.html">You Can&#8217;t Keep a Justified Man Down</a> | An interview with N. T. Wright, author of <em>The Resurrection of the Son of God</em>. (April 1, 2003)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/42.0.html">CT Classic: Are We Speaking the Same Language?</a> | What Catholics really believe about justificationâ€”and why defining our terms makes all the difference. (November 1, 1999)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/21.0.html">Reformation Day Celebrations Ain&#8217;t What They Used to Be</a> | The Lutheran-Catholic Justification Declaration is a good step, but it&#8217;s only a beginning. (November 1, 1999)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/april27/8t5017.html">Theology: Does The Gift of Salvation Sell Out the Reformation?</a> | The recent statement from evangelical and Roman Catholic leaders on the Christian doctrine of justification &#8220;sells out&#8221; the Reformation, according to James Boice, chairman of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals (ACE). (April 27, 1998)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/february9/8t2066.html">Paid in Full</a> | The sacrifice of Calvary was not a part payment; it was a complete and perfect payment. (Charles H. Spurgeon, February 9, 1998)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/july18/4t8017.html">Should Catholics and Evangelicals Join Ranks?</a> | A recent document entitled Evangelicals and Catholics Together gives a resounding yes to this question. (July 18, 1994)<br />
Also: Why I Signed it, Parts <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/december12/4te34a.html">1</a> and <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/december12/4te34b.html">2</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Justification, Christianity Today and the &#8220;new&#8221; Perspective</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/08/11/justification-christianity-today-and-the-new-perspective/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The times have not really changed that much since Luther&#8217;s day.Â  It is refreshing to see that the editors of Christianity Today still get it about the central importance of justification for christianity.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The times have not really changed that much since Luther&#8217;s day.Â  It is refreshing to see that the editors of Christianity Today still get it about the central importance of justification for christianity.</p>
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		<title>Christianity Today, Justification and Trinitarian theology</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/07/22/christianity-today-justification-and-trinitarian-theology/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Open Theism, Openness of God, Open Theist, Open Theists]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[We must salute Christianity TodayÂ  magazine for their recent statement in the print edition [p.20, July, 2007].Â Â Â  The editors stated that,
&#8220;Why justification by faith alone is still our defining doctrine&#8230;
In a later paragraph they wrote:
&#8220;&#8230;God credits Jesus&#8217; righteousness to those who trust in him, declaring them just and acquitting them of their sins.
Such a radical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must salute <strong>Christianity Today</strong>Â  magazine for their recent statement in the print edition [p.20, July, 2007].Â Â Â  The editors stated that,<br />
&#8220;Why justification by faith alone is still our defining doctrine&#8230;</p>
<p>In a later paragraph they wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;God credits Jesus&#8217; righteousness to those who trust in him, declaring them just and acquitting them of their sins.</p>
<p>Such a radical idea has caused many to think:<em> This is too good to be true.Â  Surely I must contribute something to the porcess.</em>Â  But we contribute nothing.Â  We don&#8217;t even contribute faith.Â  With God&#8217;s gift of faith, we paradoxically deny the meritorious nature of human action and affirm the work of another.Â  It is not faith in faith, but faith in Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a wonderful trinitarian statement for that magazine to make.</p>
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		<title>Obama Theology and Ethics Lecture: Trinitarian Theology</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/06/24/obama-theology-and-ethics-lecture-trinitarian-theology/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent speech on June 23,Â  in Hartford, Connecticut,Â  Barack Obama gave some politically enlightened comments toÂ  the United Church of Christ Convention.Â  He addressed abortion, gay marriage, school prayer, intelligent design, Bible reading,Â  and tax cuts for the rich.Â  He would fit right in with some of the theological seminaries within an hour [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent speech on June 23,Â  in Hartford, Connecticut,Â  Barack Obama gave some politically enlightened comments toÂ  the United Church of Christ Convention.Â  He addressed abortion, gay marriage, school prayer, intelligent design, Bible reading,Â  and tax cuts for the rich.Â  He would fit right in with some of the theological seminaries within an hour or two of his speech.Â  Of course, the chief objects of his scorn were the &#8220;Christian Right&#8221;.Â  With Jerry Falwell in heaven now, we are more ethereal [and difficult]Â  to demonize.Â  We are the &#8220;Christian Right&#8221;.Â  I am sure that Tony Campolo, Ron Sider and Jim Wallis appreciate his wholesale trashing.Â  He reminds me of many of the Evangelical TrinitarianÂ  preachers he despises and that is: He is &#8220;almost right&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Hank Hannegraaf, Apocalypse Code, Trinitarian Theology</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/06/11/hank-hannegraaf-apocalypse-code-trinitarian-theology/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations to Hank Hannegraaf on his work addressing dispensational eschatology from a Biblically sane position.Â  Hannegraaf de-bunks the idea of a coming future holocaust for Jewish people and Israel.Â  Unfortunately, some of the most vocal and bizarre adherants to dispensational eschatology will label him as an &#8220;anti-semite&#8221;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Hank Hannegraaf on his work addressing dispensational eschatology from a Biblically sane position.Â  Hannegraaf de-bunks the idea of a coming future holocaust for Jewish people and Israel.Â  Unfortunately, some of the most vocal and bizarre adherants to dispensational eschatology will label him as an &#8220;anti-semite&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Sproul, McGrath, Wright, Justification, New Perspective</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/05/30/sproul-mcgrath-wright-justification-new-perspective/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Sproul, McGrath views forensic justification from 4 perspectives:
1.It is declarative, forensic and a change in status not nature for the believer.
2.Justification and sanctification differ.
3.This righteousness is alien and not within the believer.
4.God gives both the means and the merit for justification.
This reads a lot like Luther, unlike N T Wright and adherents to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Sproul, McGrath views forensic justification from 4 perspectives:</p>
<p>1.It is declarative, forensic and a change in status not nature for the believer.</p>
<p>2.Justification and sanctification differ.</p>
<p>3.This righteousness is alien and not within the believer.</p>
<p>4.God gives both the means and the merit for justification.</p>
<p>This reads a lot like Luther, unlike N T Wright and adherents to the &#8220;new perspective&#8221;.</p>
<p>[<strong>Taken from Justification by faith Alone</strong>, p. 43, edited by Kistler]</p>
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