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		<title>Justification, Piper and Wright</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Piper on NT Wright and justification.  This is worthwhilehttp://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/825/
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		<title>D A Carson on N T Wright</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/12/04/d-a-carson-on-n-t-wright/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson has a great 3 part feature on iTunes U addressing a forum at Reformed theological Seminary.</p>
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		<title>Articles on Justification</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Christianity Today points us toward the upcoming Evangelical Theological Society meeting in San Diego a few day from now, they also pointed us to some other articles on justification and the New Perspectives on Paul.
Related Elsewhere:
&#8220;Further Reading on the New Perspective&#8221; accompanies this article.
A recent Christianity Today editorial outlined why justification by faith alone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Christianity Today points us toward the upcoming Evangelical Theological Society meeting in San Diego a few day from now, they also pointed us to some other articles on justification and the New Perspectives on Paul.</p>
<p><span class="subhead">Related Elsewhere:</span></p>
<p class="text">&#8220;<a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/august/14.27.html">Further Reading on the New Perspective</a>&#8221; accompanies this article.</p>
<p class="text">A recent <em>Christianity Today </em><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/july/19.20.html">editorial</a> outlined why justification by faith alone is still Protestants&#8217; defining doctrine.</p>
<p class="text"><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.thepaulpage.com/">The Paul Page</a> has original articles and interviews about the new perspective on Paul, as well as links to journal articles, books, and other materials around the web.</p>
<p class="text">Scot McKnight has also blogged about the new perspective in <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?cat=40">Jesus Creed</a>.</p>
<p class="text"><em>The Wall Street Journal</em> published <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110007657">John Wilson&#8217;s op-ed</a> on N.T. Wright and the new perspective.</p>
<p class="text">Many of <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://ntwrightpage.com/">N. T. Wright</a>&#8217;s papers and sermons on Paul are available on an unofficial site.</p>
<p class="text">Simon Gathercole&#8217;s &#8220;<a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/divinity/staff/documents/GathercoleTynB52.pdf">After the New Perspective: Works, Justification and Boasting in Early Judaism and Romans 1-5</a>&#8221; is available online.</p>
<p class="text">Other <em>Christianity Today</em> articles on <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/features/index/faithandthought/theology/">theology</a> and justification include:</p>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/23.0.html">Declaration: Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/may/9.29.html">Nothing But the Blood</a> | More and more evangelicals believe Christ&#8217;s atoning death is merely a grotesque creation of the medieval imagination. Really? (May 1, 2006)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/2005/december/23.71.html">Sticking Points</a> | Despite recent rapprochement, evangelicals and Catholics remain far apart on key issues. (December 2005)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/june14/54.0.html">The Gospel of Jesus Christ</a> | An introduction to &#8220;The Gospel of Jesus Christ: An Evangelical Celebration.&#8221;(David Neff, February 1, 2000)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/aprilweb-only/4-14-42.0.html">You Can&#8217;t Keep a Justified Man Down</a> | An interview with N. T. Wright, author of <em>The Resurrection of the Son of God</em>. (April 1, 2003)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/42.0.html">CT Classic: Are We Speaking the Same Language?</a> | What Catholics really believe about justificationâ€”and why defining our terms makes all the difference. (November 1, 1999)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1999/novemberweb-only/21.0.html">Reformation Day Celebrations Ain&#8217;t What They Used to Be</a> | The Lutheran-Catholic Justification Declaration is a good step, but it&#8217;s only a beginning. (November 1, 1999)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/april27/8t5017.html">Theology: Does The Gift of Salvation Sell Out the Reformation?</a> | The recent statement from evangelical and Roman Catholic leaders on the Christian doctrine of justification &#8220;sells out&#8221; the Reformation, according to James Boice, chairman of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals (ACE). (April 27, 1998)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/february9/8t2066.html">Paid in Full</a> | The sacrifice of Calvary was not a part payment; it was a complete and perfect payment. (Charles H. Spurgeon, February 9, 1998)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="text"><p><a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/july18/4t8017.html">Should Catholics and Evangelicals Join Ranks?</a> | A recent document entitled Evangelicals and Catholics Together gives a resounding yes to this question. (July 18, 1994)<br />
Also: Why I Signed it, Parts <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/december12/4te34a.html">1</a> and <a class="text" target="_blank" href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/december12/4te34b.html">2</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Justification, Christianity Today and the &#8220;new&#8221; Perspective</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/08/11/justification-christianity-today-and-the-new-perspective/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The times have not really changed that much since Luther&#8217;s day.Â  It is refreshing to see that the editors of Christianity Today still get it about the central importance of justification for christianity.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The times have not really changed that much since Luther&#8217;s day.Â  It is refreshing to see that the editors of Christianity Today still get it about the central importance of justification for christianity.</p>
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		<title>Psalm 119, Luther, N T Wright, justification and meditation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was sitting outside Calgary this a.m. and meditating on a passage out of Psalm 119, where the psalmist writes &#8220;Thy righteousness is righteous forever.&#8221;Â  I thought to myself, righteousness at anytime is the same.Â  If Luther was correct in the 1500&#8217;s he must be correct now.Â  If Wright is correct, then he would have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sitting outside Calgary this a.m. and meditating on a passage out of Psalm 119, where the psalmist writes &#8220;Thy righteousness is righteous forever.&#8221;Â  I thought to myself, righteousness at anytime is the same.Â  If Luther was correct in the 1500&#8217;s he must be correct now.Â  If Wright is correct, then he would have been right in the 1500&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>The New Perspective,Open theism, David Wells, the state of the church</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/06/03/the-new-perspectiveopen-theism-david-wells-the-state-of-the-church/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 14:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Writing about historical theism in Whatever Happened to the Reformation, Wells wrote that, &#8220;The truth of the matter is that the fraying at the edges of the evangelical world has now turned into an unraveling at its center.&#8221;   I believe that this could as easily be said about The New Perspective as Wells [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writing about historical theism in <strong>Whatever Happened to the Reformation</strong>, Wells wrote that, &#8220;The truth of the matter is that the fraying at the edges of the evangelical world has now turned into an unraveling at its center.&#8221;   I believe that this could as easily be said about The New Perspective as Wells comment about open theism.</p>
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		<title>Martin Luther, teachers, justification</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/06/01/martin-luther-teachers-justification/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his commentary on Galatians, Luther wrote in his opening preface.
&#8220;Wherefore I do admonish you, especially such as shall become teachers and guiders of consciences, and also every one apart, that ye exercise yourselves continually by study, by reading, by meditation of the word, and by prayer, that in time of temptation ye may be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his commentary on Galatians, Luther wrote in his opening preface.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wherefore I do admonish you, especially such as shall become teachers and guiders of consciences, and also every one apart, that ye exercise yourselves continually by study, by reading, by meditation of the word, and by prayer, that in time of temptation ye may be able to instruct and comfort both your own consciences and others, and to bring them from the law to grace, from active and working righteousness, to the passive and received righteousness: and to conclude, &#8220;from Moses to Christ&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am not so sure that 21st century evangelical teachers would echo Luther&#8217;s admonition to teachers.</p>
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		<title>Edmund Clowney, New Perspective, Justification</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edmund Clowney wrote:Â  We misunderstand Paul if we separate in principle between the justification that is ours when we believe in ChristÂ  and the justification to be pronounced in the day of judgment.&#8221;&#8230;Paul&#8217;s fervour for justification through Christ&#8217;s righteousnessÂ  and not our own is fervour for grace: jealousy for the love of God for the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edmund Clowney wrote:Â  We misunderstand Paul if we separate in principle between the justification that is ours when we believe in ChristÂ  and the justification to be pronounced in the day of judgment.&#8221;&#8230;Paul&#8217;s fervour for justification through Christ&#8217;s righteousnessÂ  and not our own is fervour for grace: jealousy for the love of God for the ungodly.&#8221;Â  [taken from <strong>Right with God</strong>, p.50., ed. D. A. Carson]</p>
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		<title>Sproul, McGrath, Wright, Justification, New Perspective</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/05/30/sproul-mcgrath-wright-justification-new-perspective/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Sproul, McGrath views forensic justification from 4 perspectives:
1.It is declarative, forensic and a change in status not nature for the believer.
2.Justification and sanctification differ.
3.This righteousness is alien and not within the believer.
4.God gives both the means and the merit for justification.
This reads a lot like Luther, unlike N T Wright and adherents to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Sproul, McGrath views forensic justification from 4 perspectives:</p>
<p>1.It is declarative, forensic and a change in status not nature for the believer.</p>
<p>2.Justification and sanctification differ.</p>
<p>3.This righteousness is alien and not within the believer.</p>
<p>4.God gives both the means and the merit for justification.</p>
<p>This reads a lot like Luther, unlike N T Wright and adherents to the &#8220;new perspective&#8221;.</p>
<p>[<strong>Taken from Justification by faith Alone</strong>, p. 43, edited by Kistler]</p>
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		<title>Peter Stuhlmacher, Justification and the New Persectives</title>
		<link>http://discusstheology.com/index.php/2007/05/29/peter-stuhlmacher-justification-and-the-new-persectives/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He got it right years ago.Â  He wrote in 2001 [in the Sanders, Stendahl, Dunn pre/early N T Wright epoch],
&#8220;That some valid insights have emerged in the new perspective on Paul, I do not wish to deny.Â  I find myself doubtful, however, that the new perspective itself constitutes a major breakthrough to a truer estimate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got it right years ago.Â  He wrote in 2001 [in the Sanders, Stendahl, Dunn pre/early N T Wright epoch],</p>
<p>&#8220;That some valid insights have emerged in the new perspective on Paul, I do not wish to deny.Â  I find myself doubtful, however, that the new perspective itself constitutes a major breakthrough to a truer estimate of Paul and Judaism.Â  This Copernican revolution is taking us down the wrong path.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Revisiting Paul&#8217;s Doctrine of Justification</strong>, p. 105</p>
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