Discuss Theology

With the simultaneous rise of militant islam and the rise of evangelical subordinationism, we find ourselves observing a strategy of Satan subtly subverting the doctrine of the Trinity-worldwide. Trinity, Trinitarian theology under attack

From Hugh Hewitt’s blog, The single, best site for vast resources on The DaVinci Hustle is at MarkDRoberts.com.

Richard and Catherine Kroeger mention several different types of heretical subordinationism in the Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, p. 1058.  Among the various strains they list are: Sabellianism, Monarchianism, Macedonianism. Types of subordinationism, Trinitarian theology

Discussing Philippians, Stanley Grenz wrote about Paul commending Euodia and Syntyche.  Further, Grenz mentioned Wayne Grudem and John Piper.  Grenz stated that Grudem and Piper merely “patronize” first-century women. [Women in the Church, p.86] Grenz wrote that complementarian theologians patronize

My World column focuses on Time’s willingness to indulge Andrew Sullivan’s hate speech.
Sullivan abandoned serious debate long ago, but Time still purports to be a newsweekly. [from hughhewitt.com, link to it from my blog roll]

Garland Simmons was excited when the Cowboy Church began meeting at his place on Horseshoe Bend Road in late March.

It appears, however, that somebody did not share his enthusiasm. Simmons was notified by Bedford County officials that the Cowboy Church meetings violate county zoning regulations.

“I got the notice certified through the mail, Monday morning,” Simmons said.

The notice consisted of two letters. One was from Gary McIver, the county’s building official. McIver wrote that, by hosting the Cowboy Church on his property, Simmons is using it in a manner contrary to its agricultural (AR) zoning.

He also wrote that the building in which the Cowboy Church is being held, is defined as a farm building by the Virginia Uniform Statewide Building Code. The Cowboy Church constitutes a change of use for the building.

“We are all in agreement that this event is a worthy and admirable cause,” McIver wrote.

However, he wrote that it is an unpermitted change of use for the property.

The other letter was from Lindsay Blankenship, a planner in the county’s department of planning. It directs Simmons to “obtain the necessary permits for the establishment of a Religious Assembly” on the property by May 28.

“I don’t think it’s the county,” commented Simmons. “It’s somebody that is against religion or against me.”

The Rev. Raymond Bell, the Cowboy Church’s pastor, agrees that somebody has filed a complaint with the county.

Simmons has retained Robert Wandrei, a Bedford attorney, to represent him. Wandrei said that they plan to try to talk to county officials and get a resolution. Wandrei noted that Simmons has a right to appeal the county’s decision.

County Attorney Carl Boggess said that the county has received an appeal from Simmons.

Meanwhile, the Liberty Counsel has contacted Bell. According to Liberty Counsel’s Web site at www.lc.org, the organization offers free legal representation to people whose civil liberties have been denied. Bell said the organization called him Friday evening and he agreed to accept their offer of representation.

Bell said that the issue is whether or not we have government authorized churches. He feels the zoning restriction on churches puts the government in a position of authorizing, or not authorizing, a church.

According to Rena Lindevaldsen, the Liberty Counsel attorney representing the Cowboy Church, the zoning code in Bedford County is very broad. It could even impact things people do in their own home and a person hosting a home Bible study could be required to get a special use permit.

Lindevaldsen said that, because the code is overly broad, it violates the Cowboy Church’s First Amendment rights, and also runs counter to a federal law, the Religious Land Uses and Institutional Persons Act. According to this law, local zoning can’t impose a significant burden on a church’s right to worship.

“If he was having a square dance, nobody would have bothered him,” noted Lindevaldsen, who said that she has read Bedford County’s zoning ordinance.

Lindevaldsen said she will contact Bedford County officials, via letter, this week.

Meanwhile the church has no plans to stop meeting. A Cowboy Church in Thaxton is also scheduled to soon open.

Grenz quotes Boccia in Women in the Church

“When leadership involved the charismatic choice by God of leaders through the gifting of the Holy Spirit, women are included.  As time passes, leadereship is institutionalized, the secular patriarchal culture filters into the Church, and women are excluded.” [p.37] This reads like the culture has invaded the theology of a complementarian adherent. Stanley Grenz, Maria Boccia not complementarian

Origen wrote in his commentary on Romans about Phoebe.  “This passage teaches that there were women ordained in the church’s ministry by the apostle’s authority…Not only that, they ought to be ordained into the ministry, because they  helped in many ways and by their good services deserved the praise even of the apostle.” Origen about Phoebe, Not a complementarian

Chrysostum wrote in his Homilies on Romans,  about Phoebe: “Note how many ways Paul dignifies Phoebe.  He mentions her before all the rest and even calls her his sister.  It is no small thing to be called the sister of Paul!  Moreover, he has mentioned her rank of deaconess as well.” Chrysostum about Phoebe, Not a complementarian

Ambrosiaster wrote in his Commentary on Paul’s Epistles,  “Paul praises Phoebe as highly as he does because the more she appears to be an excellent person in the sight of others, the more she will receive the helped owed to her in love.” Ambrosiaster, Phoebe, Not a Complementarian